Ormente wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:41 pmI agree with most of your point, Newbie4
As vocal as i am about my concerns, i must add a few positive points here.
1 / LiveCode is a lot more than simply a language. As a language it's not my favorite one. I have a background with a lot of others: LC is a bit verbose and lacks some useful things (AFAIK, as i'm relatively new here). But it is a decent one, and because i like Smalltalk or Haskell we don't have to be pedantic: practicality trumps purity. Yes i would like enhancements, but the language is more or less OK. The point is : LC is a world you live in, not just a language, it's not unlike Smalltalk/Pharo. And that's a beautiful world to live in.
2 / In the business world, LC competes more with so-called frameworks or (pretending to be) cross platform development tools than languages. The language aspect is only the tip of the iceberg. But it's definitely possible that the non-mainstream language used here is a bit of a showstopper for some.
3 / The educational market is a good target, as LC is very well suited even as a language : it's pseudo code that actualy runs
; But it is also a rich toolset, so students can actualy do nice real things with their "pseudocode". But, here again, i have to add that (for me) LC is a lot more than just a "beginner language".
4 / We have to keep in mind that a company (or a fundation) needs money to afford good developpers, documentation writers, and so on... whatever the structure is, it needs money. On a personal level i'm like Richard: i would be glad to pay less just for the sake of it... but that's not the point: my concern was that the high price strategy may be harming the livecode future. A future i want to believe in. As we don't know the ins an outs of the situation, we can only provide opinion... and hope they can find a way to the captain's crew ears and (maybe) help the decision makers assure us all a bright future.
Hi Ormente, frenchie here too (in Lyon, closeby?), hi all
I'm investigating LiveCode versus Pharo and Flutter to rebuild a mobile app, kind of group productivity tool: discussions (chat), groups, todo, meetings/cal, photo albums, maps ("where are you all?"), ... for families and best friends. iOS and Android (with native notifications) first, web (mobile and desktop) later. No fancy GUI, just classic tabs and "cards" or threads you find in your everyday tools.
One young good dev made a React Native version, and testing Flutter now. Don't need its power, I think... I guess some much more productive tool such as live coding Pharo or LiveCode or (please advice?) /.../...? Multi-targets of course.
Huge thanks for your help!
ps: your comment: Pharo vs LiveCode?